I don't want to come across rascist or mean, I am just really curious about this and can't ask the person directly because I don't want to offend her. I live in L.A. and work with with this 25 year old Mexican female who has lived in the U.S. since she was 2. Her vocabulary and English is very poor considering she lived here since the age most people start to speak. For instance, she may refer to fish (plural) as "fishes" - stuff like that. I realize that her parents must not have spoken English, which slowed the process, but she has lived here 23 out of the 25 years of her life. Any ideas?

Here in California I have noticed that most Mexican Americans refer to other Mexicans as "Spanish". Why? Just speaking Spanish doesn't make one Spanish. Being from Spain makes one Spanish. I speak English, but I'm not from England so I'm not English. I almost get the feeling that Mexicans here in California regard the word Mexican as an insult. Why? Being from Mexico makes one Mexican just as surely as being from Italy makes one Italian.

My Iranian friend claims that his language is called Farsi, not Persian, but my argument is that even though it's known as Farsi in the language itself, in English, it would be called Persian. After all, you wouldn't say to a Mexican, "Hey, do you speak Espanol?"

Any ideas?

La Jornada
April 19, 1998
by Jose Agustin Ortiz Pinchetti

During the last 100 years, the racism in Mexico has shown 3 characteristics: 1) it has slowed the process of modernization; 2) it has contributed to the dissolution of public consciousness 3) it has damaged the moral assets of the nation.

1. During the Porfiato nobody hindered the subsistence of the racial social structure, or the heritage of colonization, and Mexico was pledging to overcome these things by "whitening" itself. From here the government was trying to directly structure itself around the descendants of the European colonists.

Today racism still subsists in Mexico as it did during the beginning of the 20th century and before during the period of colonization, all the while hindering the modern growth of its populace. There are indications of growth such as the increase in literacy, the expansion of elemental education, electrification, the introduction of telephone services and the Internet, laser computers, radios, televisions, etc... Mexicans, however, not only live with discrepancies of incomes directly correlating with race, but also live with the rest of the inequalities that are linked to the caste system present here. The original criollo (direct Spanish descendants) structure still has a hegemonic position within Mexico.

Some have defended the status quo, talking of how the racial mobility of Mexico has dramatically increased during this century. But as soon as they have the opportunity to proclaim the implicit supremacy of the "white race" in the process of promoting the sales of products and services, they never hesitate to do so.

2. Our racism is not up for debate. There is no political official to denounce it, confront it, or overcome it, and of course, this in no way worries the elite. The classical studies of Vasconcelos, Ramos, and Molina Enriquez aren't circulating. Santiago Ramirez makes a freudian interpretation and speaks of our inferiority complex in the face of Europe, without realizing that this inferiority complex exists independently amongst Mexicans as a result of the racism present here. The study about the correlation between income and race done by Jose Iturriaga was an important study that was never followed or expanded upon. Bonfil Batalla has a book, "Mexico Profundo" that takes a look at some of the race issues in Mexico, but it has only stimulated a little interest. The official position is not so much one based on support of the Mestizo, but one based on the continuation of criollo dominance. The presence of an increasingly angry indigenous consciousness has unfortunately not led to a greater level of consciousness for the dominant class.

3. The worst damage as a result of the racism present in Mexico is the psychological and cultural damage. Agustin Basave in Mexico Mestizo, describes the results of the imposition of culture on the identity and improvement of Mexico . He points to the contempt of the achievements of the national culture, and the embrace of western culture, particularly that of North America. He continues by indicating that this attitude is impeding Mexico from making the necessary synthesis away from our racism, and creating internal security for ourselves. This embrace of western culture, according to Basave, is also breaking our internal images, and generating unequal dualities, making it nearly impossible to create a true national project. In total the racism present in Mexico, along with the embrace of western culture is dividing and debilitating our nation.

It is very difficult to attack the racism inherent in Mexican culture when those that suffer from it, mainly mestizos, seen to be accomplices in the process of discrimination. But it is possible to go at the dissolution of racism from a different angle. Of great importance is to accept that we suffer from racism in this country as a result of the caste system. It is absolutely necessary that the government and intellectual side of Mexico promote the expansion of this consciousness. They should prohibit the use of commercials in Mexico that promote racial dominance, or at the very least modify what already exists. Also of importance is to change the informal education system, particularly that which offers access to different types of media, such as books, newspapers, radio and television. They should all be attempting to create a type of race consciousness that directly goes at the problem of racism in Mexico.

The decadence of the public education system is currently greatly contributing to the augmentation of racism throughout Mexico. In private universities, the criollo population is being educated and taught to control the media for the particular reason of maintaining their dominance. Vicente Fox recently declared that the slowly increasing access to education for all, is at the root of the continuation and spread of racist ideology. This t

So I'm just really annoyed because my cousin and i are really close but im more of a brown color and she is pretty fair. When we tell ppl that we are cousins they don't believe us because im brown and she
is lighter skin color than me. They say she is not mexican because "she is white and doesn't speak spanish". I tell them im mexican and i can't speak spanish either, they say "but your brown".
It's not like she is mixed both her parents are mexican, her mom is as dark as me and her dad is light skinned but still mexican. She just came out light like her dad, we can not
control genetics.
I try to tell ppl that you do not have to be brown or be able to speak spanish in
order to be mexican but they just ignore my comments.
It just gets irritating and annoying for both of us, guess that
people think if your not brown or speak spanish then you are not mexican.
Oh well, guess we well just have to get use to it.

In some businesses I've been to in the United States that advertise themselves as having bilingual staff, I've noticed that most of the workers are Mexicans who yes, speak Spanish very well, but their English is horrible. I'm not trying to make fun of them for their English, but seriously, it seems like bilingual these days means "Spanish required, English optional". I myself speak Spanish way better than some of these people speak English, and yet I doubt I would ever be taken seriously trying to get a bilingual job in California because they can always just go hire a Mexican who speaks Spanish better than me, but who speaks English far worse than me. I just can't understand why there is so much emphasis on Spanish skills but almost none on English. And as a side question, why does it seem like the majority of Chicanos I've met are so arrogant about knowing both languages from birth? I even had one insisting that I'm not a true bilingual because I didn't learn Spanish from birth.
Not one of you understood my question. My question is why do EMPLOYERS care so much about Spanish proficiency but almost nothing about their English proficiency. My question had nothing to do with immigrants refusing to learn English. My question is, why is it that someone who speaks Spanish at a 100% level but English at only a 25% level is hired over someone who speaks English at a 100% level and Spanish at a 75% level. It seems like to be considered "bilingual" you really just have to speak Spanish only, as long as you can get by in English you're bilingual, but if you speak English natively, you have to speak Spanish very well or else you're not bilingual. That was my question: why when it comes to being judged as a bilingual or not, native English speakers have to speak Spanish a lot better than native Spanish speakers have to speak English.

why is it that the US is putting the wall but their not.. i hate how both of the pres candidates talk about making this nation more spanish literate... why cant they just stay on their own poor damn country.. why cant the us gov just let the mexican gov fix their own damn problem so we can focus on our own...
"It's a myth that without illegal, prices would go up"

best statement chuggs

I am trying to write my wedding vows as I'm getting married in Mexico. I found a site that said it was "Y siempre será tuya para siempre."

Is this correct? and how is it pronounced?
Thanks

hello people, well im mexican but i'm testing my english, that's why i'm here,
Have you ever tried mexican food ?, if you have, what dou you think abou it?. Thank you so much for your answers.
By the way, could you tell me how good my english is?, i know i didn't write so much but its something to qualify.
GReetings from México.
Sorry sorry, iknow its "do" not "dou" but i was a finger mistake jeje
ups, sorry again i wrote "i was a finger mistake", but what i tried to write was "it was a finger mistake", i promise that next time i write, i'll read it before submit

I've been seeing a man off and on that speaks mexican-spanish. What does it mean when he says see you so soon. I haven"t seen him for a couple of weeks and saw him yesterday at his business.

I'm doing a common Mexican "Mythconceptions" Project for my Spanish class, and was wondering if most native Mexicans (living in Mexico) know more English than most Americans know Spanish.
ie. If Mexicans know how to ask simple questions, and Americans only know around 5 words.

Fernando Torres u.u
"white isn't a race" u.u?! ?!?

OK, when my mom and dad were dating, he played her a song because he's a Mexican and my mom's white and he thought it would be funny. And she's been trying to figure out what song it was for years. All she can remember is that it goes something like this:

"hey all you gringas we got what you're
looking for. come and get your Mexican pingas" (haha!)

so, any ideas as to what song this is? Thanks in advance! =)

I always use the term mexican-american for myself because I can't just say mexican because I'm not from Mexico. I can't say just American because in everyones eyes that means Anglo. I am a 5th gen. American on my mothers side and on my fathers side we can trace back 8 gen. here in Cali, back to the Mexican-American war days. Everyday I get people talking to me in spanish and when I say I don't speak spanish they are all surprised and ask a bunch of questions like "why don't you speak spanish"? and other stupid questions. They act like they are so amazed! Some think I don't speak it because I don't like it. It's annoying sometimes-they are so ignorant. If I knew it I would speak it but I don't and if I wanted to right now I'm sure I could take classes and learn but it's not a main focus in my life right now. Some will say - You turned your back on your culture and crap but I'm proud to be chicano and know my history. Why is it only hispanics who make a big deal of his. Other races don't

Seriously. The job always goes to a mexican that speaks no english and has half, if any, experience. I have found this issue to be more recurring during the down times of the economy and it seems like if your white your "over qualified" for jobs like fast food, farm fields, janitorial services, even government jobs. I have not a damn clue what is happening with this country. Anyone want to educate me on the fact of the matter?

I was just thinking how wrong sometimes we americans are about ourselves, I just went down to Mexico on a business trip and i stayed with a Mexican family in a upper-class neighbourhood, and it was new to me to see that there are actually many white mexicans some of them even blonde but they are 100%mexican citizens some of them do not even speak english, on the other hand it is not rare to see in the US speacially in the southern states "mexican-looking people" and some of them are 5th generation mexicans and lost completely the language and they speak English and some of them know nothing of Spanish...I know that race and nationality have nothing to do with each other (specially in America) but still it made me think of stereotypes and how wrong we can be....any similar stories???

As in the food (Mexican fajita). do you pronounce the "J " or not? .
I live in England (UK), we don`t have spanish kindergarten here.

this is NOT how it's spelled but it sounds like this......wa matair way?? what does that mean??
Hey Lucy, Mexico is a country...Spain is a country... they have different dialects!!! Americans don't call a toilet a "loo" but people from england do... so shut the fuck up!

yea i know it's weird, but im just curious, is it just random, or do they mean to make certain letters caps and certain lower case. like this "WHy dO THeY wRItE LikE tHiS? it's on myspace and it's pretty much my mexican friends, lol.

President Felipe Calderon, today blasted our deportations and said "Mexico does not end at its borders." And speaking to Mexicans in the US many of them here illegally he told them "Where there is a Mexican, there is Mexico."

That sounds pretty imperialistic to me. What would happen if we sent millions of Americans to another country and said that the US extends into your country?

is there an online english to mexican translator program?

how do you say these in mexican..

"You are special to me,
so special that youre the only there is...
a woman i so cherish..
so beautiful...
so fragile...
yet so perfect for me....
i love you..."

hope you can translate it line per line.. thanks

I have personally seen this many times. People really get upset if they are from say, Brazil, and are mistaken for a mexican. Is there some sort of elitism amongst south american countries that they feel they are better than mexicans. I have also heard plenty of people from Spain that think this way too. One person claimed that the "butchered" version of Spanish that Mexicans speak is basically slang. Anyway I think that explains what I'm trying to find out.
I wouldn't bother or offend me at all to be mistaken for a canadian.

"W" stumbled on nearly every sentence and was always grasping for words off the teleprompter, but the President of Mexico speaks English nearly flawlessly and does very well off the teleprompter.
The content of the Mexican President's message is a different issue than the one being asked here and so please don't comment on it.

They don't show them ranting but I saw it last night and the redneck leader was all"we don't know what diseases they have or if they come here to work or murder" and he was only talking about Mexicans.Should we warn them?

http://www.cnn.com/video/

"Spanish and English Vocabulary" are describing Lotería (Mexican Bingo)

Or "American, Canadian,etc"

Personally at first I was surprised people were so ignorant, but now I find it sort of humorous.

Today a girl said she didn't speak Mexican, and I corrected her and told her she meant "Spanish". we went back and forth for about 15 min because she claimed "Mexican" was correct and not Spanish

Its 4 A Tattoo. Ne1 No Ne Sites Were I Can Get It Translated 4 Free? I Want 2 Put It Behind My Right Ear. Gr8. No H8ers.
P.S. My Name Is Shareef, Like:
Omar Shareef (Actor)
Mazar-e-Shareef (Place In Afghanistan)
Shareef Don't Like It (Clash Lyrics)
No, I want it in Mexican, like "Tenochtitlan" or "Nezahualcoyotl" or "Huitzilopochtli" or "Watcho mi trucha, ese." I think it looks cool, and it would prolly also sound cool (although I've never heard it). Entiendes, Méndez?

So some people are saying Pancho and some are saying Punta. Which is it? Should I just split the difference and go for PUTO???